Comments on: The Colorado Car Tax - er, “vehicle registration fee” increase - brought to you courtesy of the Colorado Supreme Court http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2010/04/19/the-colorado-car-tax-er-%e2%80%9cvehicle-registration-fee%e2%80%9d-increase-brought-to-you-courtesy-of-the-colorado-supreme-court/ Returning accountability to our judicial system... Thu, 17 May 2012 11:12:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Cl Jones http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2010/04/19/the-colorado-car-tax-er-%e2%80%9cvehicle-registration-fee%e2%80%9d-increase-brought-to-you-courtesy-of-the-colorado-supreme-court/comment-page-1/#comment-17682 Cl Jones Fri, 06 Apr 2012 15:44:40 +0000 http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/?p=4428#comment-17682 It is time for ciitzens to step up and take action. Vote to abolish "ownership" tax on motor vehicles and have a flat rate for all citizens. This would be fair and equitable. I relocted here from Texas and each vehicle pays an average of $60 annually for renewal. They do not charge "Ownership Tax" nor do the charge "State Income Tax" and yes they do charge higher realestate tax but allow greater exemptions for those who are disabled, veterans, or seniors. Colorado is one of the worst states for taxing consumers I have encountered. They surpass California you for years had the worst reputation. Secondly they do not justify charging these alleged ownership taxes when they fail to produce jobs for its citizens. Vote to abolish Owner Ship Tax on motor vehicles. Enough is Enough It is time for ciitzens to step up and take action. Vote to abolish “ownership” tax on motor vehicles and have a flat rate for all citizens. This would be fair and equitable. I relocted here from Texas and each vehicle pays an average of $60 annually for renewal. They do not charge “Ownership Tax” nor do the charge “State Income Tax” and yes they do charge higher realestate tax but allow greater exemptions for those who are disabled, veterans, or seniors.

Colorado is one of the worst states for taxing consumers I have encountered. They surpass California you for years had the worst reputation. Secondly they do not justify charging these alleged ownership taxes when they fail to produce jobs for its citizens.

Vote to abolish Owner Ship Tax on motor vehicles.

Enough is Enough

]]> By: Sam http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2010/04/19/the-colorado-car-tax-er-%e2%80%9cvehicle-registration-fee%e2%80%9d-increase-brought-to-you-courtesy-of-the-colorado-supreme-court/comment-page-1/#comment-17410 Sam Sat, 17 Mar 2012 14:55:12 +0000 http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/?p=4428#comment-17410 I have a pre 1990 pu and now the taxes are way over a hundred dollars. Let us start a very vibrant campaign to RECALL the Governor Hickenlooper. Take back our state by taking charge. Maybe boycot his beer company. Maybe P&M to every Colorado State congressional person and let them know they are on their way out next election. I have a pre 1990 pu and now the taxes are way over a hundred dollars. Let us start a very vibrant campaign to RECALL the Governor Hickenlooper. Take back our state by taking charge. Maybe boycot his beer company. Maybe P&M to every Colorado State congressional person and let them know they are on their way out next election.

]]> By: CL Jones http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2010/04/19/the-colorado-car-tax-er-%e2%80%9cvehicle-registration-fee%e2%80%9d-increase-brought-to-you-courtesy-of-the-colorado-supreme-court/comment-page-1/#comment-17145 CL Jones Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:42:47 +0000 http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/?p=4428#comment-17145 Paying this horrifing taxes appears to be signs of intentional corruption. On the otherhand other items are overpriced such as water an essential need to survive. I have lived in many states in the U.S.A. and found the most expensive for water was California (1967) when we had to pay for bottled water due to the poor quality of water for consumption. The problem with taxes on automobiles in America is due to the fact that in Colorado you are taxed on MSRP rather than actual value. If the bill were appealed and modified to tax on actual value rather than inflated values vehicles could not be taxed for tags on values exceeding 50% for owner ship tax. This simply because the value is devalued by 50% the day it exits the dealership. Secondly if people would wake up and smell the coffee, they could approve increased property tax values (tax deductible) and reduce vehicle tax (not tax deductible) and leave toy's taxable as luxary items. This was provide a more broadbased fair tax for the citizens of Colorado. Charge a visitor or tourist tax for those who enter the state such as toll booths at port of entry like New England States have to pay for highways, and education. This allows for lower property and personal tax mandates, that grossly affect millions of low income workers and spans statewide to all citizens regardless of income. Gambling tax for education rather than supporting millions of acres of land that does nothing more than support natural wildlife allowing gaming taxes to be devided 60% for education 10% wildlife 20% Colorado Citizen Retirement Fund ( does not exist) similar to that which Alaska distributes major income from production to its citizens) and 10% to Economic Growth and Development Planning distributed among counties in the state of Colorado. There are ways to make life more affordable, maintain the beauty of Colorado and not impose longterm hardships on its citizens. The Colorado Constitution clearly states the people reserve the right to abolish or ammend the constitution at anytime. Perhaps if the people would join forces positive changes can and will occur. End corruption in government and restore integrigty and affordability to Colorado's citizens. CL Jones New Visions of America Foundation Colorado Paying this horrifing taxes appears to be signs of intentional corruption. On the otherhand other items are overpriced such as water an essential need to survive. I have lived in many states in the U.S.A. and found the most expensive for water was California (1967) when we had to pay for bottled water due to the poor quality of water for consumption.

The problem with taxes on automobiles in America is due to the fact that in Colorado you are taxed on MSRP rather than actual value. If the bill were appealed and modified to tax on actual value rather than inflated values vehicles could not be taxed for tags on values exceeding 50% for owner ship tax. This simply because the value is devalued by 50% the day it exits the dealership.

Secondly if people would wake up and smell the coffee, they could approve increased property tax values (tax deductible) and reduce vehicle tax (not tax deductible) and leave toy’s taxable as luxary items. This was provide a more broadbased fair tax for the citizens of Colorado.

Charge a visitor or tourist tax for those who enter the state such as toll booths at port of entry like New England States have to pay for highways, and education. This allows for lower property and personal tax mandates, that grossly affect millions of low income workers and spans statewide to all citizens regardless of income.

Gambling tax for education rather than supporting millions of acres of land that does nothing more than support natural wildlife allowing gaming taxes to be devided 60% for education 10% wildlife 20% Colorado Citizen Retirement Fund ( does not exist) similar to that which Alaska distributes major income from production to its citizens) and 10% to Economic Growth and Development Planning distributed among counties in the state of Colorado.

There are ways to make life more affordable, maintain the beauty of Colorado and not impose longterm hardships on its citizens. The Colorado Constitution clearly states the people reserve the right to abolish or ammend the constitution at anytime.

Perhaps if the people would join forces positive changes can and will occur. End corruption in government and restore integrigty and affordability to Colorado’s citizens.

CL Jones
New Visions of America Foundation
Colorado

]]> By: K http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2010/04/19/the-colorado-car-tax-er-%e2%80%9cvehicle-registration-fee%e2%80%9d-increase-brought-to-you-courtesy-of-the-colorado-supreme-court/comment-page-1/#comment-14570 K Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:49:24 +0000 http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/?p=4428#comment-14570 I have kept my license and tags out of state for this exact reason for the past 10 years. I just registered my new truck for the first time for $865.00 (ownership tax and reg), that is a joke. I will be registering my truck out of state again once it is time to renew. I have no problem contributing to the state I live in, but Colorado will no longer receive any more of my money. I have kept my license and tags out of state for this exact reason for the past 10 years. I just registered my new truck for the first time for $865.00 (ownership tax and reg), that is a joke. I will be registering my truck out of state again once it is time to renew. I have no problem contributing to the state I live in, but Colorado will no longer receive any more of my money.

]]> By: Melvin H. http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2010/04/19/the-colorado-car-tax-er-%e2%80%9cvehicle-registration-fee%e2%80%9d-increase-brought-to-you-courtesy-of-the-colorado-supreme-court/comment-page-1/#comment-13682 Melvin H. Sat, 11 Jun 2011 00:29:18 +0000 http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/?p=4428#comment-13682 Something I have wondered: (1) If you pay taxes/fees on one car, then sell/trade it in on a new car (paying the higher taxes/fees on it)....why shouldn't you get a refund on the taxes/fees paid on the previous car, or be able to get the (pro-rated) fees you ALREADY paid on a car you no longer have applied to the taxes/fees on the car you just purchased??? [or refunded outright if you do not purchase a new car] (2) If you lease a vehicle, why can't you have the taxes folded into the contract for the lease, so you don't get hit all at once on a car that (as I understand it) you technically don't own? In other words, have the taxes on a car (divided by 12 payments) able to be added to the monthly lease payment? (3) On a completely different subject: Given that auto insurance is mandatory, why is it that an insurance company is allowed to turn you down on the basis of . . . your credit report??? Your driving record, sure; but using your credit report as a basis for auto insurance would be like using your driving record as a basis for getting homeowners' insurance. Something I have wondered:
(1) If you pay taxes/fees on one car, then sell/trade it in on a new car (paying the higher taxes/fees on it)….why shouldn’t you get a refund on the taxes/fees paid on the previous car, or be able to get the (pro-rated) fees you ALREADY paid on a car you no longer have applied to the taxes/fees on the car you just purchased???
[or refunded outright if you do not purchase a new car]

(2) If you lease a vehicle, why can’t you have the taxes folded into the contract for the lease, so you don’t get hit all at once on a car that (as I understand it) you technically don’t own? In other words, have the taxes on a car (divided by 12 payments) able to be added to the monthly lease payment?

(3) On a completely different subject: Given that auto insurance is mandatory, why is it that an insurance company is allowed to turn you down on the basis of . . . your credit report??? Your driving record, sure; but using your credit report as a basis for auto insurance would be like using your driving record as a basis for getting homeowners’ insurance.

]]> By: BDJ http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2010/04/19/the-colorado-car-tax-er-%e2%80%9cvehicle-registration-fee%e2%80%9d-increase-brought-to-you-courtesy-of-the-colorado-supreme-court/comment-page-1/#comment-12872 BDJ Sat, 23 Apr 2011 23:45:31 +0000 http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/?p=4428#comment-12872 My 2004 Ford F150 is being taxed based on its 2004 MSRP, which exceeds by $3000 what I paid for it, and by $13000 what the current blue book value is. This is why I despise all politicians with the burning white hot intensity of a thousand suns. My 2004 Ford F150 is being taxed based on its 2004 MSRP, which exceeds by $3000 what I paid for it, and by $13000 what the current blue book value is.

This is why I despise all politicians with the burning white hot intensity of a thousand suns.

]]> By: Tom http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2010/04/19/the-colorado-car-tax-er-%e2%80%9cvehicle-registration-fee%e2%80%9d-increase-brought-to-you-courtesy-of-the-colorado-supreme-court/comment-page-1/#comment-12420 Tom Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:32:56 +0000 http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/?p=4428#comment-12420 I am more irritated at the $25 per month late fee. Why are you penalized if you do not want to register a car but later decide to for whatever reason to do so? Maybe you have a second or third junk car sitting in the garage and weren't sure you wanted to even fix it but then decided to 6 months later? Now instead of paying 70 bucks for an entire year they hit you for 170. Turns out it is cheaper to gift the old car to a family member and get new plates. Sad but true. I am more irritated at the $25 per month late fee. Why are you penalized if you do not want to register a car but later decide to for whatever reason to do so? Maybe you have a second or third junk car sitting in the garage and weren’t sure you wanted to even fix it but then decided to 6 months later? Now instead of paying 70 bucks for an entire year they hit you for 170. Turns out it is cheaper to gift the old car to a family member and get new plates. Sad but true.

]]> By: Ralph http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2010/04/19/the-colorado-car-tax-er-%e2%80%9cvehicle-registration-fee%e2%80%9d-increase-brought-to-you-courtesy-of-the-colorado-supreme-court/comment-page-1/#comment-11635 Ralph Fri, 19 Nov 2010 23:58:03 +0000 http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/?p=4428#comment-11635 No one likes to pay taxes, or fees, however, if you want to drive on decent roads and reduce traffic congestion you need to pay for it. The "ownership tax" in Colorado, though described as a car tax, is, in fact, a personal property tax. It is a way for counties to raise money to support services for its residents. Many states tax the value of your licensed vehicles/trailers/boats and call it a "personal property tax". No one likes to pay taxes, or fees, however, if you want to drive on decent roads and reduce traffic congestion you need to pay for it. The “ownership tax” in Colorado, though described as a car tax, is, in fact, a personal property tax. It is a way for counties to raise money to support services for its residents. Many states tax the value of your licensed vehicles/trailers/boats and call it a “personal property tax”.

]]> By: John http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2010/04/19/the-colorado-car-tax-er-%e2%80%9cvehicle-registration-fee%e2%80%9d-increase-brought-to-you-courtesy-of-the-colorado-supreme-court/comment-page-1/#comment-11468 John Wed, 03 Nov 2010 03:57:52 +0000 http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/?p=4428#comment-11468 People who organized to fight this car tax with Amendment 101 better be screaming voter fraud from the tops of the Rockies. Right now with 25% of the votes in, 101 is losing by a whopping 40%! Even with a lot stupid people out there, this still defies ANY logic. The car tax had every media outlet's facebook page overloaded with outraged people. The media was hard pressed to find a 'man on the street' who wasn't POed about it and, the election office is trying to tell me an over whelming majority is NOT in favor of repealing it? Sorry this stinks to high heaven of voter fraud, and with mail in voting and voting 'fax' machines, voter fraud in Colorado is easy as Sunday morning. People who organized to fight this car tax with Amendment 101 better be screaming voter fraud from the tops of the Rockies.

Right now with 25% of the votes in, 101 is losing by a whopping 40%! Even with a lot stupid people out there, this still defies ANY logic.

The car tax had every media outlet’s facebook page overloaded with outraged people. The media was hard pressed to find a ‘man on the street’ who wasn’t POed about it and, the election office is trying to tell me an over whelming majority is NOT in favor of repealing it?

Sorry this stinks to high heaven of voter fraud, and with mail in voting and voting ‘fax’ machines, voter fraud in Colorado is easy as Sunday morning.

]]> By: Jeff http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2010/04/19/the-colorado-car-tax-er-%e2%80%9cvehicle-registration-fee%e2%80%9d-increase-brought-to-you-courtesy-of-the-colorado-supreme-court/comment-page-1/#comment-8453 Jeff Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:07:08 +0000 http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/?p=4428#comment-8453 I just watched a series of videos, (Constitution Class taught by Michael Badnarik) He has some really good points based on the Constitution like why do we need to continue to pay taxes on vehicles once they are paid off. I highly recommend you take the time to watch these and see just how bad our elected officials have gotten because not enough of us know our rights. (I wonder if our government run schools have a little something to do with that) All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke) I just watched a series of videos, (Constitution Class taught by Michael Badnarik)
He has some really good points based on the Constitution like why do we need to continue to pay taxes on vehicles once they are paid off.
I highly recommend you take the time to watch these and see just how bad our elected officials have gotten because not enough of us know our rights.
(I wonder if our government run schools have a little something to do with that)

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.” (Edmund Burke)

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