Comments on: Balancing the Budget with new “Fees?” Ritter Gun Tax joins Colorado Car Tax in Mullarkey-sanctioned TABOR runaround http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2009/08/20/balancing-the-budget-with-new-fees-ritter-gun-tax-joins-colorado-car-tax-in-mullarkey-sanctioned-tabor-runaround/ Returning accountability to our judicial system... Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:32:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Gary http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2009/08/20/balancing-the-budget-with-new-fees-ritter-gun-tax-joins-colorado-car-tax-in-mullarkey-sanctioned-tabor-runaround/comment-page-1/#comment-5981 Gary Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:11:18 +0000 http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/?p=1305#comment-5981 Just to show how inefficiant the CBI is a local Deputy Sheriff that carries an issued firearm was denied the ability to purchase a private firearm by the CBI. The FBI check cleared him but a clerical error in the CBI found a reason that he should be denied to have a firearm. Yes he finally did get it cleared up and purchased his gun but it cost him to get them cleaned up. Something is wrong when the very person we depend on to protect us gets caught up in State incompetance. Just to show how inefficiant the CBI is a local Deputy Sheriff that carries an issued firearm was denied the ability to purchase a private firearm by the CBI. The FBI check cleared him but a clerical error in the CBI found a reason that he should be denied to have a firearm. Yes he finally did get it cleared up and purchased his gun but it cost him to get them cleaned up.
Something is wrong when the very person we depend on to protect us gets caught up in State incompetance.

]]> By: Frank Galmish http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2009/08/20/balancing-the-budget-with-new-fees-ritter-gun-tax-joins-colorado-car-tax-in-mullarkey-sanctioned-tabor-runaround/comment-page-1/#comment-1155 Frank Galmish Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:19:13 +0000 http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/?p=1305#comment-1155 I didn't vote for Ritter and never will-especially as all Democrats that have their hand in our pockets-they all want the cake but won't help the little red hen make it I didn’t vote for Ritter and never will-especially as all Democrats that have their hand in our pockets-they all want the cake but won’t help the little red hen make it

]]> By: Derec http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2009/08/20/balancing-the-budget-with-new-fees-ritter-gun-tax-joins-colorado-car-tax-in-mullarkey-sanctioned-tabor-runaround/comment-page-1/#comment-1154 Derec Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:31:15 +0000 http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/?p=1305#comment-1154 Great comment! I work in a field that requires professional licensing by the state of Colorado along with a CBI check. I'm also applying for a concealed weapons permit and have to pay for 2 CBI checks within a month. Why the heck can't they just use one, unless it's a money maker for the state? I know with security clearances, your background checks can be used by multiple organizations and purposed while it's valid, Colorado needs to have a life span on CBI checks like that as well or get them out of the process. Great comment!

I work in a field that requires professional licensing by the state of Colorado along with a CBI check. I’m also applying for a concealed weapons permit and have to pay for 2 CBI checks within a month. Why the heck can’t they just use one, unless it’s a money maker for the state?

I know with security clearances, your background checks can be used by multiple organizations and purposed while it’s valid, Colorado needs to have a life span on CBI checks like that as well or get them out of the process.

]]> By: Kyle http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2009/08/20/balancing-the-budget-with-new-fees-ritter-gun-tax-joins-colorado-car-tax-in-mullarkey-sanctioned-tabor-runaround/comment-page-1/#comment-1143 Kyle Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:42:48 +0000 http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/?p=1305#comment-1143 Let us examine a few faults in Ritter's plan. Firstly, he vetoed the Brady Bypass Bill that would have removed the requirement to have a background check for those with CCW permits from Colorado, thereby keeping the CBI (Colorado Bureau of Investigation) and NCIC check mandatory for all purchasers (setting us up). Now he complains that the system can't sustain itself and needs to charge a fee to those using the system. Had the Brady Bypass Bill passed, it would have significantly reduced the workload on CBI to do the checks. Additionally, CBI can just be cut out of the loop entirely. The Brady Bill requires an FBI background check, and Colorado law requires that CBI do a check as well. If CBI were cut out of the loop then your local gun store would simply call the FBI directly for your check and the process would take about 5 to 10 minutes. As it stands, your local gun shop has to get on their computer, send your info to CBI, CBI sends it to the FBI, and you have to wait on BOTH checks, one of which isn't required by federal law. If Ritter were really interested in saving money he would just do away with the CBI portion, but that would remove some of his control over the people of Colorado. Want another kick below the belt? Colorado has one of the highest rates of false denials for background checks in the country. That means that if you buy a firearm and get denied it's probably a clerical or other error on the part of CBI. Yes, you may have been approved by the FBI portion of the check but been denied by CBI because someone with a name similar to yours was in trouble, or because they don't like a non-disqualifying offense in your youth (or something else). Even worse than that, I have seen actual prohibited people be denied and just not get their gun. This means that they committed a crime by being a prohibited person and trying to buy a gun, CBI knows about it, and nothing happens to these people. However, if you have unpaid parking, speeding, or other tickets, the police will come right to the dealer and arrest you on the spot. I've seen this THREE times thus far. One guy was because he hadn't paid a ticket for his dog doing its business in a public park and he didn't pick it up in a timely manor. You see, if they can get money from you they'll enforce the law, if they can't... So the CBI check is a failing program and Ritter wants you to pay for the privilege of being screwed by it. My questions to any and all readers is this: How much does CBI spend on the background check system that the state could save if the program were done away with? What are the complete and verifiable stats on the CBI program? Confront these people with FACTS!! It's the only way we'll win the war for Liberty. Let us examine a few faults in Ritter’s plan. Firstly, he vetoed the Brady Bypass Bill that would have removed the requirement to have a background check for those with CCW permits from Colorado, thereby keeping the CBI (Colorado Bureau of Investigation) and NCIC check mandatory for all purchasers (setting us up). Now he complains that the system can’t sustain itself and needs to charge a fee to those using the system. Had the Brady Bypass Bill passed, it would have significantly reduced the workload on CBI to do the checks. Additionally, CBI can just be cut out of the loop entirely. The Brady Bill requires an FBI background check, and Colorado law requires that CBI do a check as well. If CBI were cut out of the loop then your local gun store would simply call the FBI directly for your check and the process would take about 5 to 10 minutes. As it stands, your local gun shop has to get on their computer, send your info to CBI, CBI sends it to the FBI, and you have to wait on BOTH checks, one of which isn’t required by federal law. If Ritter were really interested in saving money he would just do away with the CBI portion, but that would remove some of his control over the people of Colorado.

Want another kick below the belt? Colorado has one of the highest rates of false denials for background checks in the country. That means that if you buy a firearm and get denied it’s probably a clerical or other error on the part of CBI. Yes, you may have been approved by the FBI portion of the check but been denied by CBI because someone with a name similar to yours was in trouble, or because they don’t like a non-disqualifying offense in your youth (or something else). Even worse than that, I have seen actual prohibited people be denied and just not get their gun. This means that they committed a crime by being a prohibited person and trying to buy a gun, CBI knows about it, and nothing happens to these people. However, if you have unpaid parking, speeding, or other tickets, the police will come right to the dealer and arrest you on the spot. I’ve seen this THREE times thus far. One guy was because he hadn’t paid a ticket for his dog doing its business in a public park and he didn’t pick it up in a timely manor. You see, if they can get money from you they’ll enforce the law, if they can’t… So the CBI check is a failing program and Ritter wants you to pay for the privilege of being screwed by it.

My questions to any and all readers is this: How much does CBI spend on the background check system that the state could save if the program were done away with? What are the complete and verifiable stats on the CBI program? Confront these people with FACTS!! It’s the only way we’ll win the war for Liberty.

]]> By: Jack Neary http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/2009/08/20/balancing-the-budget-with-new-fees-ritter-gun-tax-joins-colorado-car-tax-in-mullarkey-sanctioned-tabor-runaround/comment-page-1/#comment-1095 Jack Neary Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:42:48 +0000 http://www.clearthebenchcolorado.org/?p=1305#comment-1095 This is what happens when too many Californian's move into the state. This is what happens when too many Californian’s move into the state.

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